RE: RE: was Digital Audio/ now Ir and IRDA

[BUTLER, Tony, FM]

Ken,

I'll agree that most moby users couldn't give a hoot about IR,
but for most PDA & laptop users, this sort of connectivity is very
important.
One reason for bluetooth is that it negates the need for line fo sight
comms,
so phone stays in pocket whilst u surf the web with your PDA.....

It is a rather annoying fact of life that the big manufacturers usually
only
cater
for the largest markets (one reason us minorities stay minor is because
it's
so
damned hard to do what we want to do :-< ), or like Linn, it's a small
market and
it costs an arm and a leg for it (helping to to stay small).

There are very few ppl out there like Keith who are trying to produce
something
truly useful and at a reasonable price. I do hope that KAT5 takes off for
him as
I'm sure the price of a TX/RX pair, in the quantity he's sold, doesn't
really make
up for the time he's put into developing them.
OTOH, the low cost encourages more ppl to buy to experiment with them, thus
(hopefully)
helping Keith to realise a worthwhile return on his (time) investment.....

Tony


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:<a
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> Sent: 10 January 2002 13:46
> To: <a
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> Subject: RE: [KAT5] RE: was Digital Audio/ now Ir and IRDA
>
>
> Tony,
>
> You know what I mean :-)
>
> Most folks that have a PDA, Nokia 6210 IrDA capable phone or whatever
> other model couldn't give a fig about the IR capability just like the
> STB situation. You're probably right though in that the reason is
> two-way data comms that is the issue and the reason for the
> existence of
> IrDA.
>
> But then that's the problem for the minority of us, myself included,
> that want to do something a little different or push the envelope of
> what can actually be achieved with the technology available
> to us today.
> Basically something new or poorly supported always comes
> along and bites
> us on the ass!
>
> K.
>
> This is K. From Work! I really should be working ;-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:<a
href="/group/kat5-users/post?postID=xnD-FH7Ph2ultoJbTWa_QG2zEkWVmco2QQ_wsh033B6ObstOGTJO7mRCv6_pd6EL-guuad-0QVviZyYXfUl0">Tony.BUTLER@r...</a>]
> Sent: 10 January 2002 13:31
> To: <a
href="/group/kat5-users/post?postID=8kkoTq6W9J7HYWia-S7xqc5cUyLdBXe5z6GGtjpNzmkCmOwn8ZPJ39Ys3NJEdq-dIAaw1_TO74hWpONxSJPp5w9mrbI">'kat5-users@xxxxxxx</a>'
> Subject: RE: [KAT5] RE: was Digital Audio/ now Ir and IRDA
>
> > The phone companies use IrDA and the PDA market seem to like
> > it as well,
> > but again it is a limited market, I mean what can you
> actually achieve
> > with it that is of any great use to a majority of users?
> Bear in mind
>
> I think you'll find that the laptop/pda/phone market is actually quite
> large
> :-)
> I don't know the technical details of IRDa vs IR, but I suspect it is
> something
> to do with IR being limited for two way data comms purposes.
> After all,
> I
> can't
> see that it would have been adopted 'just for the sake of it'
> IrDA modems are used with PDA's and Laptops worldwide all the time....
>
> > that Bluetooth is just around the corner and that the G3
>
> Bluetooth has been 'just around the corner' for a number of years now.
> I
> think it
> is finally being adopted, albiet slowly - 802.11b is somewhat
> of a rival
> for
> it and
> is becoming increasingly popular - there are advantages and
> disadvantages to
> both,
> so it may be some time before a clear winner emerges...
>
> > services which
> > demand a higher data rate than IrDA can cope with, AFAIK, so
> > businesses
> > will likely switch to this for wireless comms between
> > laptops, PDAs etc.
>
> Depends on what sort of 3G applications ppl come out with.
> If there is
> a
> requirement
> to stream high volumes of data from phone to laptop, I'm not sure that
> bluetooth will
> be able to cope with that anyway.....
>
> just my 2p worth.
>
> T.
>
>
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