RE: Re: Knekt KAT5?

[Keith Doxey]

Hi Tony,

I'm confused :-(

This is what I dont get....
"could your switch be programmed such that having received a SCART
trigger
on input X, it would always automatically output that to output Y"
...if it ALWAYS routes X to Y then there is no point having a switch.

The Intersekt only handles Audio, how will you select which Video source
you
want, or are you saying "I select <AUDIO 1> on Intersekt for
<Zone3>
therefore I want the KAT5 Switch to select <AVSource1> and Route it
to
<Zone3>".

If so, and assuming you built a reliable audio detection interface, how
will
you differentiate between Audio from <Audio1> or <Audio3> ?

I appreciate you want to use the Linn RCU as a means of control but I cant
see how you can achieve it with what you propose.

Keith


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Butler [mailto:<a
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Sent: 15 February 2002 12:43
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Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?


Hi Keith,

I'm a bit thick really. I haven't got a direkor. I keep on mixing up
the terms.
I have the intersekt which is the equivalent of your switch.
This feeds line receivers or direkors, equivalent to you kat5 receivers.
The intersekt links to everything else by cat5, sending balanced audio
&amp;
control info.
As (forget his name now!) on the list discovered, the balanced audio
seems 'compatible' with your balanced audio.

Okay so your switch cannot detect a/v input. But it will detect scart
switching signals.
If I could cause the presence of a balanced audio signal (taking a feed
off the intersekt) to generate the required voltage for scart switching
(this is in fact not a million miles from what I asked in ukha_d about
trying to get the presence of audio to trigger my amps on - they need
9-12V to power themselves up rather than being left permanently on.
Sadly everyone jumped onto X10 solutions of turning on/off the power
socket at certain times. Okay it'll work, but not quite the elegant
solution I was looking for :( ) then could your switch be programmed
such that having received a SCART trigger on input X, it would always
automatically output that to output Y.

This would mean if I have all a/v sources connected to the intersekt,
with each output going to your switch, then when I choose 'DVD' on the
control keypad for the kitchen, the intersekt sends the DVD audio to the
'kitchen' which is a Switch input, which then sends the audio and video
to the kitchen KAT5 receiver.

It certainly helps the WAF to have only one device to switch all
sources, and the RCU's are rather nice anyway, so it would seem a rather
elegant solution if the switch can do as described.

If it can, the next question of course would be 'how do I generate the
correct switching voltage from line level audio? :)

Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers,


Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:<a
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> Sent: 14 February 2002 23:19
> To: <a
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> Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I wasnt ignoring your post. I read it, re-read it, and
> re-read it again.
>
> KAT5 Switcher will NOT sense any input either Audio or Video.
> It WILL be able to detect SCART switching signals It WILL be
> controllable by Infra Red It WILL be controllable by Serial
> Commands It MAY be controllable via a web browser
>
> If you can get the Linn to send either the required IR
> commands or Serial Commands then what you desire will be
> possible. Likewise any HA controller that could send IR or
> Serial could control it.
>
> From what I can see looking at the Linn website, the Direktor
> is a room based amplifier with 3 local inputs on Phono and a
> remote CAT5 input from the Knekt Intersekt.
>
> Surely a better solution in your case would be to use the
> Linn setup for all your AUDIO sources eg CD, Tuner, MP3 etc
> with the VIDEO sources (DVD,Tivo,Sky,ITVDigital etc) routed
> via KAT5. In the viewing rooms you could feed the Video to
> the TV/Plasma/Projector etc and the audio from the KAT5
> receiver into one of the local inputs on the Direktor.
>
> I apologise if my understanding of the Linn is incorrect but
> as I have never seen one, let alone played with one, my
> analysis is based totally upon the Linn Website.
>
> I am assuming that the Linn kit can learn any IR it needs to
> and send whatever commands you wish. If it cant then you
> would need something like Homevision to run a macro that sent
> the required commands upon receipt of a more simple command.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tefxp [mailto:<a
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> Sent: 14 February 2002 16:39
> To: <a
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> Subject: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?
>
>
> Keith,
>
> Any thoughts on this?
> _Will_ it be possible to trigger the Kat5 switch to direct
> input X to output Y when an audio signal is presented to input X?
>
> cheers,
>
> Tony.
>
> --- In kat5-users@y..., "tefxp" <tony.butler@r...>
wrote:
> > We have previously discussed Kat5 interoperating with Linn's
knekt
> > system which I know is not on the cards. BUT
> > What if I could connect the output of the Knekt switch to an
input
> on
> > the KAT5 switch, and the KAT5 switch knew that an input on X
means
> > direct it to output Y then I could effectively control KAT5 from
> the
> > Linn RCU's.
> >
> > This might seem a bit mad, but I already have the linn stuff so
> it's
> > no extra expense. Keith, I know you plan on the switch being
> > programmable to some degree, so maybe this is possible? Not
> > necessarily directly either - eg, is there some sort of X10
module
> > that could be hooked to the balanced audio output of a
> device
> > (eg KAT5 xmitter or Linn device, as they seem to use the same
sort
> of
> > levels as demonstrated by the gent with the classik) or even the
> > normal phono outs (though balanced out _is_ preferred) which
could
> > then send K5:ON or whatever, to be picked up by HomeSeer/HV
> etc, which
> > would then tell the Kat5 switch to direct input X to output Y?
> >
> > This is not a Linn only solution either - I'm sure some of
> the HA bods
> > could think of a use for automatically switching a source to a
> > destination - eg PIR detects movement @ front door, so X10 webcam
> > input to KAT5 switch triggers it to direct this input to the
front
> > room TV.....
> >
> > For me it would mean all outputs of Linn Direktor go to all
inputs
> of
> > KAT5 Switch. In dining room, I select the DVD on the direktor.
> This
> > causes the dining room output on the direktor to output a signal,
> > which the KAT5 switch sees and immediately routes this input to
the
> > dining room KAT5 output. This way I get switched audio + video +
> RCU
> > control of the lot + of course, I don't have to ditch my knekt!
> >
> > Thoughts peeps?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> >
> > Tony
>
>
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